Talk: Sentai Sixth Ranger

Wait, Even if the White Racer is a false hero, but helped the Carrangers like a sixth member, she should not be on this page because it is not part of this category  If so, add the AbarePink on the page of Sentai Additional Rangers in Sentai Aditional Content False

Why didn't you sign your post? Anyway, Carranger doesn't have a sixth ranger, Signalman is an Extra Hero. AbareKiller is a sixth ranger though, despite only being the fifth person on the team - so Abare Pink would not be a sixth. That's why she's not on this page. But if you think she belongs on Category:Sentai Extra Rangers, why didn't you just add her? The page isn't locked.  Digifiend  Talk  PR/SS  KR  MH  Toku  JD  Garo  TH  CG  UM  Logos  CLG  DW  13:20, 3/10/2014 

About Kyuranger's Sixth

I've been in an international toku fan group for a while and most of the members in there generally seem to agree that Houou Soldier is more suited to be a "Sixth", rather than Ryu Commander. With that being said, I'd like to find a way for us to properly justify Ryu and Houou's member status in the Kyuranger team since both can be seen as either Sixths or extras depending on how you view the situation:

1. Shou like most other conventional Sixths come directly after the main core team in terms of the order of both debut and roll call appearance. However, Houou (as we can see from his recent debut episode) has a lot more personality traits in common with other previous Sixths, while Ryu is more in line with mentor characters like Doggie and Torin who become Rangers eventually.

2. Both Ryu and Houou use changers which are drastically different from the core team changers, much like most modern sixths. In contrast, extra rangers seen so far (including Koguma Skyblue) use a changer that is either identical to or a repaint of the core team changer.

3. An interesting detail to note is that Houou is given the number designation of 12 which is a multiple of 6. His suit's basic format/design/outline also differs from the first 11, much like previous sixths with their core teams.

Looking at it, it points towards the possibility that both Ryu and Houou can be counted as Sixths, rather than having to choose between either. Tell me what you think.

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If we look at all the previous sixth rangers trait and debuts, The mecha is strong indcation who is the sixth; Houou like many previous sixth have single pilot mechas (except for go-on wings and Stag & Beet buster) unlike Ryutei-oh who needs 2 arms to be complete and sixth rangers debuting in the late episode 20's is not uncommon (kingranger, megasilver, gaosilver, timefire, shurikenger). Ryucommander is more like the extra ranger like DekaMaster. I'd say we put Houou as the sixth ranger. Tokusatsu_Kami 20:53, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

To quote from a Youtube comment I made (because I'm almost certain it's the same person): "But Kyutamajin is much like Bakuretsu Kyoryuzin, a giant robot on top of the red mecha, which isn't normal for a Sixth Robo combination. Ryu Voyager requiring other voyagers to transform into robot mode is like Dragon Caesar's Gouryuzin and King Pyramider's Battle Formation, in that they can't form their robot forms without other components. Heck, even Won Tiger's warrior mode is an analog to Ryuseioh and not Dairenoh (that falls to Kibadaioh)." --Shinobi Galador (talk) 21:38, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

We can go even further, because this has been discussed ad nauseum and people still want their opinion to be correct versus the facts as given. In addition to the above, RyuCommander's Kyutama is number 10, right after the core 9 (just like Utchy's Zyudenchi was number 6, despite Ramirez debuting before him). His suit is similar to the core, yet slightly different as the case is with other sixths (Tsurugi's is the same). Recent sixths have been debuting earlier - Shou is no different. We're going to go with the facts, which state Shou is the sixth and not Tsurugi. Sorry Tokusatsu_Kami, but the facts do not agree with you. Nbajammer  Talk  RW  KR  MH  TK  KI  JD  Garo  TH  CG  UM  GZ  TF  GoT  48  BS  SH  SI  TFs  FF  SO  RE  GA  CT  DQ  01:37,1/4/2018 

I understand the rule that once an admin says something it's final, but I'd still like to give my input on the situation if that's okay.

• The thing with Lucky being the Red is that he always appeared morphed in every episode, even if it was brief like in the episode where they separated and his group discovered Mecha Madako and he morphed in the last few moments of the episode after not appearing at all before then. Now with Tsurugi, he has appeared morphed in almost every single episode since his debut, only missing a few, which is something that would happen with the Sixth. Shou has not, his appearances being very infrequent compared to the others. Even when the Kyulette has rolled out 5 rangers who aren't Tsurugi, he still goes out to battle with them, raising the number to 6 rangers on the field. That has happened multiple times throughout Kyuranger's run.

• Tsurugi's Final is also different from the others. The others all have an All-Star Crash or [Constellation] Impact, but Tsurugi only has Phoenix End. His morph is different as well, he gets C'mon the Change, whie everyone else, Shou included, gets Seiza Change. Shou does say "Garyou Tensei" though, while Tsurugi shares saying "Star Change" with the others. And yes Sixths have been appeared earlier in more recent Sentai seasons, but that doesn't mean they can't push the debuts back. Misao only fully debuted in Episode 17 of Zyuohger, which is when the average Sixth entrance used to be. And as mentioned before, Tsurugi's mecha forms on its own, like most Sixth mecha. The only exceptions to that rule have been paired Sixths.
• Tsurugi started off as a loner operating separarely from the team, which is the case with most Sixths. Also, he doesn't officially join the team until a few episodes after his debut when he gains their trust, another common Sixth trait. Tsurugi has also taken more of a Second in Command role than Shou has, and they even had an episode focusing on that, so this point could potenitally be debunked.

• One could compare Shou to Doggie. I don't know much about Dekaranger so I will use SPD names and terms instead. Doggie appeared before Sam did, which was also the case for Dekaranger. Sam was confirmed to be the Sixth instead of Doggie, who was then retroactively placed as an Extra Ranger, confirmed by Gokaiger/Super Megaforce. So, the case is no different for Kyuranger, despite numerical designations. Shou was the mentor who got ranger powers and was assumed to be the Sixth, as with Doggie, but then Tsurugi and Sam showed up and were revealed to be the true Sixths, leaving Shou and Doggie as Extra Rangers. Granted, Doggie appeared morphed much more than Shou did, but still not as much as Sam after his debut.

Yes, Shinobi Galador's points are valid and facutal, but as are mine and Tokusastu Kami's. I would personally mark them both as the Sixths, but I know opinions aren't what matters. As you said we're talking facts, and so there is just more evidence pushing Tsurugi as the sole Sixth instead of Shou. Thank you for taking the time to read my long explanation. ShinxBoy1 (talk) 10:06, January 4, 2018 (UTC)

It doesn't matter whether what we say is final - when we're wrong, we are wrong. However, we have a process with expectations in order to prove we are wrong, and since Shou being Sixth is supported by the show itself (Show = Word of God), it would take an absolute miracle to prove that the show itself is wrong. The #1 thing that Tsurugi fans are going to have to accept is the Kyutama numbering - that alone is a HUGE piece of evidence for Shou being sixth because in every other case where that is happened - and I provided one such case earlier in Kyoryuger's Zyudenchi numbering - the numbering system identified the Sixth. Kyoryuger's reasoning also applies here. So to prove Tsurugi is the Sixth you would need to prove the show is wrong, and any number of people's opinions will not meet the criteria we have put forth for that, sorry. That said I will address your points accorringly. 1. The number of shows in which someone has appeared morphed has no relevance to the identity of the Sixth. Why? Because there are 12 rangers. There is not enough screen time for all of them. So it's a matter of fact that there will be times when some are left out. Tsurugi being left out less has no bearing on who the Sixth is. It only impacts how often specific rangers are seen. Lucky is a core member, so of course he will be seen more often. The team's commander is also very important, so he is seen a lot too. Sure he doesn't morph every episode, but then again not everyone will because there's 12 rangers and only so much screen time to work with. Storyline thus dictates. 2.The final attack has no bearing on who the Sixth is. C'mon the Change is different while Shou gets Seiza Change, but remember that Utchy - as the Sixth of the Kyoryugers - also used Brave In just like the others. Thus transformation item call also has no impact on the identity of the Sixth. As far as the debut episode, I can counter yours by pointing out Utchy's debut in episode 9, and StarNinger's in episode 8. Just because they can push them back does not mean that they will. Mecha also has no relevance to the identity of the Sixth. 3. Being a loner =/= Sixth. And yes, Tsurugi has taken a SIC role, but that also doesn't make him Sixth. Many SICs are not the Sixths of their team! 4. And do you know why Tetsu was the Sixth instead of Doggie? Yes - the VI on his chest. VI is the roman numeral for 6. Guess who also appeared after and was Sixth? Utchy. Appeared after Ramirez, but Utchy was Sixth. VI comes before 100, therefore Doggie was not the Sixth. 10 comes immediately after 9, so Shou is the "Sixth". Tsurugi is 12. Oops, no Sixth here! Tsurugi showing up after Shou does not make him Sixth, simply because it happened like that in an entirely different show. Therefore all your points are debunked. Unless you can prove the show is wrong, we are not going to change the Sixth from Shou to Tsurugi. I know there is an entire crusade of fans on the internet desperate for Tsurugi to be the Sixth, but unfortunately all evidence states that Shou is and so that is what we'll be going with, as we always have. Anyone changing it to Tsurugi without the necessary proof will have their editing privileges revoked for a time per wiki policy on inserting false information. To correctly make that change, you have to prove the show is wrong (particularly with the numbering). And that, I'm afraid, is not going to be easy if at all possible. Sick and tired of repeating myself about this at this point. Nbajammer  Talk  RW  KR  MH  TK  KI  JD  Garo  TH  CG  UM  GZ  TF  GoT  48  BS  SH  SI  TFs  FF  SO  RE  GA  CT  DQ  15:42,1/4/2018 

I apologize if I upset you, that wasn't my intention. And I'm not a Tsurugi fan with tunnel vision, I myself would prefer if Shou was named the Sixth, but from what I see, the show has pointed towards it being Tsurugi. And I know that VI is the Roman numeral for 6. But to your point that not everyone will appear a lot, yet Lucky and Tsurugi are the only ones who have ALWAYS been in action since their deubts. Every episode there's going to be the Red on field, and then the 4 other core members. And whenever there's 6 total rangers on the field, it is usually the Red, 4 other cores, and then the Sixth, aka Tsurugi. All of the other points I have made are valid, but the things you say to debunk them are also valid. I personally think the show is pushing towards Tsurugi, but there is evidence pushing towards Shou as well, as you have proven, which is why this is such a hot debate topic in the fandom. It appears to be a mystery that will spark debates until we get an official word saying something different, a word that might never come. Thank you again for reading what I had to say. ShinxBoy1 (talk) 22:24, January 4, 2018 (UTC)

https://taiko554.deviantart.com/journal/What-Makes-A-Sixth-Ranger-724735987 - I understand that this has been put to bed, but I still think this would be a good read, as it makes a lot more good cases than I had in mind. ShinxBoy1 (talk) 11:38, January 13, 2018 (UTC)

Another thing I've noticed that proves it's Tsurugi. In the line up, Tsurugi is standing next to Lucky, while looking at the ending dance, and the latest episode's ending scene, Shou is on the end with Kotaro, the other Extra Ranger. Or in the case of their first all 12 morph, the Extra Rangers are on either side of the Red and Sixth. In line ups Sixth Rangers are always next to the Reds, with only a few exceptions due to special circumstances of those seasons. I just looked at this for proof. In addition, Houou Voyager isn't in the dock in the Battle Orion Ship, and in the toy version, it's the only one that isn't summoned. The Sixth Rangers are often excluded from things like that most of the time. And from a casting standpoint, it makes sense that Tsurugi is the Sixth. They have the 5 core adult humanoids to do all of the publicity, and now Tsurugi joins them, making it 6. I'll admit this point is very questionable, but the others are very legitimate, and it makes sense. I think all of these, and the link I provided in my last comment, will prove that Tsurugi was meant to be the Sixth instead of Shou. ShinxBoy1 (talk) 06:42, January 15, 2018 (UTC)

You have already been told you are wrong, and that it will not be changed until you can provide sources that proves Tsurugi is the Sixth. Your opinion is not factual. You are drawing straws to try to prove the show wrong. It would be best for you to drop it at this point, because it is becoming harassment and I will issue blocks for that if need be. It does not matter where a ranger stands, or where they are in a team dance. If you want to argue a Sixth human then Kotaro would be the Sixth, not Tsurugi. Right now, you have no proof and I do not have time for theories all day. I will not be discussing it further, nor will I address your theories any further. Nbajammer  Talk  RW  KR  MH  TK  KI  JD  Garo  TH  CG  UM  GZ  TF  GoT  48  BS  SH  SI  TFs  FF  SO  RE  GA  CT  DQ  06:54,1/15/2018 

I'd hate to disagree with a fellow admin, but in a case like this in Kyuranger where conventional Sentai patterns are broken time and time again, all the more that something like the "Sixth/Extra Hero" status should be discussed, especially since at this point in time we are already nearing the end of the season. It is imperative that we need to clear up all the fan confusion as soon as possible; we are a wiki for fans, by fans, after all. This was the reason why I posted my original post on this talk page in the first place, opening it up publicly rather than keeping it to a private discussion. After following the show to this point, here is what I think:

By this juncture it is clear that the conventional Sixth Hero formula cannot be properly applied to a season like Kyuranger, which started off with a 9-member core team with 3 additional members coming along the way. (This will eventually be the case with the season after that, which has a combined total of exactly six core team members, but I'll get to that eventually when it premieres.)

I cannot deny that there is evidence pointing towards Shou being eligible for a Sixth, namely the "happy-go-lucky Sixth". As the show has progressed since Tsurugi's debut, Tsurugi has also exhibited traits of an "aloof/lone warrior Sixth" who acts on his own accord. Particularly in the episodes leading up to the true final battle (including this week's recent episode), Tsurugi has taken a more frontline role, while Shou has gradually receded himself into taking a backseat role as Commander instead of fighting regularly in battle.

I am not, however, taking any sides on who should be the "Sixth". Because of Kyuranger's unorthodox formula and style, along with Toei giving no official word, simply hinging onto plot points from the show will not be enough for us, regardless of whether we support Shou or Tsurugi here.

Hence, I have come to the conclusion that Kyuranger does not have a conventional "Sentai Sixth" ranger, and thus I propose striking Ryu Commander off the list and adding him into the Extra Rangers category along with Koguma Skyblue and Houou Soldier. Putting either Shou or Tsurugi into the Sentai Sixth category will only exacerbate a never-ending discussion.

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Super Lupin/Patren X

I just wanted to remind someone that Lupin/Patren X each have a super form now.  Titoponce1215 (talk) 03:26, February 12, 2019 (UTC)

About Jin & J...

Are whoever labelled Beet & Stag as 6th Rangers actually sure they are? I mean, I get that these Rangers do not appear in the Go-Busters verse of Super Sentai Hero Getter 2016, but citing them as 6ths JUST because of that notice??? Couldn't we just wait until there is actualized further confirmation from Toei, Bandai, whichever (sorta like the debated between Shou & Tsurugi)? (I know there was Mikoto & Noel as well but they're completely different scenarios.) XXXXX IIIII (talk) 18:53, December 26, 2019 (UTC)

Corrections on Kyuranger’s “Sixth” Senshi

The opinion part of Shirakura-san’s Tweet really was about Kyuranger’s “Sixth” and not giant robots. He answered that question back in 2018:

https://twitter.com/cron204/status/966537502818365441

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Q: 白倉さん、質問があります。キュウレンジャーの本当の「6人目」が誰であるか知っていますか？リュウコマンダー？ホウオウソルジャー？コグマスカイブルー？または両方？

A: 伝統的な「追加戦士」の条件が「2号ロボ」を率いることであれば、リュウコマンダーだと思います。

Bing Translation:

Q: Mr. Shirakura, I have a question. Do you know who the real "sixth person" of the Kyuranger is? Ryu Commander? Houou Soldier? Koguma Skyblue? Or both?

A: If the traditional condition of "Additional Warrior" is to lead "No. 2 Robo", I THINK it is Ryu Commander.

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• 思い (https://jisho.org/search/思い) = thought
• 思 (https://jisho.org/search/思) = to think; to consider; to believe; to reckon

In the 2018 Tweet, he not only used the same reasoning (brings the second robot), but the fact his answer is uncertain guesswork is much more apparent.

https://twitter.com/cron204/status/960501181704421377

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Q: キュウレンジャーvsジュウオウジャーは何故制作しなかったんですか？

A: 『新戦隊VS新戦隊』があり、『前戦隊VS前々戦隊』もあり…だとワケ分からないからです。

他にも理由は多々ありますが、個人的にも、同一フォーマットの番組どうしだから成立する従来の『VS』という趣向は、フォーマット崩しを意図していたキュウレンにはそぐわないと感じます。

Bing Translation:

Q: Why didn't you produce The Kyuranger vs. Zyuohger?

A: There is [New Sentai VS New Sentai], and there is also [Front Sentai VS Front Sentai]… That's because I don't know.

There are many other reasons, but personally, I feel that the conventional "VS" style, which is established because it is a program of the same format, is not matched to Kyuren, which was intended to break the format.

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https://twitter.com/cron204/status/1252230946893393923

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Q: ゴーカイジャーが遂にYouTube初配信になりましたね。ゴーカイジャーを改めて見て気付いた事がありました。追加戦士なのですが、『ゲキレンジャー』のゲキバイオレットとゲキチョッパーは後から登場した戦士なのにゴーカイジャー以降何故か初期メンバー扱いでした。どうしてですか？

A: スタメン３＋追加２＝５人のパターンだとそうなることもあるのでは。

Q: 回答ありがとうございます。もう一つ気になる事があります。アバレキラーは5人目ですが、追加戦士の扱いなのは他の4人とは全く違う姿なのと死亡した人物だからですか？

A: 基本、敵キャラだからじゃないでしょうか。

Bing Translation:

Q: Gokaiger is finally releasing on YouTube for the first time. I had noticed it when I looked at Gokaiger again. They are Additional Warriors, but Geki Violet and Geki Chopper of [Geki Ranger] were early members for some reason after Gokaiger even if they were warriors who appeared later. Why?

A: It may be a pattern of 3 + additional 2 = 5 people.

Q: Thank you very much for your question. There is another thing to be bothered about. Abare Killer is the fifth person to be treated as an Additional Warrior because he is a completely different figure from the other four and a person who died?

A: Is this not because it is basics, an enemy character? [Weblio translation]

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Those Tweets are more examples of him using guesswork. He may be a producer over at Toei, but his knowledge on shows he didn’t or barely worked on is limited, and he’ll admit it.

As for the brings the “second robot” rule, this likely applied to the first two Sentai with a proper sixth, which Shirakura produced. Back then, Sentai would only have two operated robots, and Dragon Caesar and Won Tiger were treated as the Jet Garuda or Titan Boy of their respective series.

Yes, there was that March poster, which is ambiguous due to Zyuoh Gorilla being compared to Kyoryu Red Carnival instead of Zyuoh Whale, and yes, the fact it pointed to Ryu Commander is a coincidence.

https://at-raku.com/hero/archives/showcase.html

You probably know this detail, but just in case, each Sentai gets five stories with a beginning (1), middle (2, 3, 4), and ending (5). A middle one ALWAYS devotes itself to the Additional Warrior’s debut (it’s usually the third story). Not every Additional Warrior on there is a “Sixth” (Gekiranger’s one was for Geki Violet and Chopper), but EVERY Sixth Warrior gets an episode.

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• Go Busters 3: 新戦士登場！ビート＆スタッグ！！ (Beet & Stag Buster)
• Kyoryuger 2: 雷鳴の勇者キョウリュウゴールド見参！ (Kyoryu Gold)
• ToQger 3: 新戦士6号発進！炎の特急決戦！！ (ToQ 6gou)
• Ninninger 2: あっしの出番！新戦士スターニンジャー参上！！ (Star Ninger)
• Zyuohger 3: 真夏のアニマルフェスティバル！ジュウオウザワールド登場！！ (Zyuoh The World)
• Kyuranger 3: 救世主覚醒！新たな伝説のはじまり！！ (Houou Soldier)
• Lupinranger VS Patranger 3: 華麗なる新戦士！ルパンエックス･パトレンエックス！！ (Lupin/Patren X)
• Ryusoulger 3: 栄光の騎士リュウソウゴールド！Gロッソに登場！！ (Ryusoul Gold)

Bing Translation:

• Go Busters 3: New Warrior Appeared! Beet & Stag!! (Beet and Stag Buster)
• Kyoryuger 2: The Hero Of Thunder Kyoryu Gold Visit! (Kyoryu Gold)
• ToQger 3: New Warrior No. 6 Launch! Express Decisive Battle Of The flame!! (ToQ 6gou)
• Ninninger 2: It's Your Turn! New Warrior Star Ninger Visiting!! (Star Ninger)
• Zyuohger 3: Midsummer Animal Festival! Zyuoh The World Appeared!! (Zyuoh The World)
• Kyuranger 3: Messiah Awakening! The Beginning Of A New Legend!! (Houou Soldier)
• Lupinranger VS Patranger 3: Brilliant New Warrior! Lupin X Patren X!! (Lupin X/Patren X)
• Ryusoulger 3: Glorious Knight Ryuso Gold! Appeared In G Rosso! ! (Ryusoul Gold)

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The Kyuranger one was not only about Houou Soldier but Ryu Commander (and his sidekick Koguma Skyblue) are nowhere to be found. And like most of the other Additional Warriors on there, he got the third story.

https://ameblo.jp/kamen-radiranger/entry-12338033780.html

Strap yourselves in because this one is very, VERY ironic. This transcript comes from Kamen Sentai Radiranger, Toei’s official radio show about Tokusatsu.

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Kenichi Suzumura： “なんか新しい、まだあんのね。第6の戦士をああいう描き方するってさ。”

Hiroshi Kamiya： “12人に増えてあんな感じで増やすってすごいよな。”

Kenichi Suzumura： “よく考えたら、今6人目の戦士って言ったけど、全然6人じゃないな。”

Hiroshi Kamiya： “倍。12人目。”

Bing Translation:

Kenichi Suzumura: “It's kind of new, isn't it? That's how you draw the Sixth Warrior.”

Hiroshi Kamiya: “It's amazing to increase the number of 12 people and increase them like that.”

Kenichi Suzumura: “When I think about it, I said I'm the Sixth Warrior now, but I'm not six at all.”

Hiroshi Kamiya: “Double. 12th person.”

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The hosts directly called Houou Soldier the “Sixth Warrior”; oncemore, one guy alluded to the “12 is 6 doubled” reasoning to be true, and it’s SHOU RONPO/RYU COMMANDER’S SEIYUU! (https://powerrangers.fandom.com/wiki/Hiroshi_Kamiya)

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=sentai.toei.gplay&hl=ja&gl=US

Super Sentai Large Gathering! Find Your Hero!

https://preview.redd.it/peda16dmil261.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=51206c353375ce29438f2d354040b7573bc65b6a (Can’t upload my image to Wikia for some reason.)

I downloaded that app game because I knew it’d have that image. The game’s made by Toei, so this is OFFICIAL. You can download it yourself with a VPN and pay four dollars, or I’ll provided further verification. I don’t care if you use it on your site (it’s a nice image).

The game doesn't seem to include Extra Heroes aside from Kuro Kishi (who had official Sixth Ranger treatment in the past).

I don’t think these ones stand strong by themselves (but my first three are without a very strong evidence if not proof of Houou Soldier's Sixth Ranger status over Ryu Commander's). These ones imply Houou Soldier is the Sixth Warrior.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4XC_OMitoQ (10:20 Sixth Warriors attack; 11:54 Tsurugi saves Lucky)

At 10:20, Kyoryu Gold, ToQ 6gou, and Star Ninger gang up on the Kyurangers, and 11:54, Tsurugi solos them.

https://spice.eplus.jp/articles/181355

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Nobuhiro Mouri: “鳳ツルギ/ホウオウソルジャー役に南くんが決まった時は、本当に嬉しかったんですよ。自分が初めてメインライターとして担当する作品でしたからね。追加戦士が赤い人というのは決まっていたので、主人公のシシレッドとのダブル・レッドとしてね。それで、もうすでに11人のキャラクターを立てた後での12人目のキャラクターということで、主人公のシシレッド並にキャラを強くしないといけないということから、演技力を必要としていました。僕はキャスティングにほとんど関わってないので、南くんに決まったと聞いてこれでツルギは大丈夫だと思いました”

Bing Translation:

Nobuhiro Mouri: “I was really happy when Minami-kun was decided to play the role of Tsurugi/Houou Soldier. It was my first work as a main writer. It had been decided that the Additional Warrior was a red person, so it was a double red with the main character, Shishi Red. So, since he was the 12th character after already 11 characters, I needed acting skills because I had to strengthen the character as much as the main character Shishi Red. I'm hardly involved in casting, so when I heard that Minami-kun was decided, I thought that Tsurgi was okay with this.”

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Though Additional Warrior covers your Big Ones, Gouraigers, Deka Masters, and everyone on Gai’s cell phone, it can be synonymous with Sixth Warrior. The quote from the headwriter is so specific that he likely means guys like Star Ninger and Zyuoh The World. Keyboard Kenshiro (talk) 20:21, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Zenkaiger Perfect Encyclopedia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kdX9VrQZNU Actual list:

• Big One
• Black Bison & Green Sai
• Dragon Ranger
• Kiba Ranger
• King Ranger
• Mega Silver
• Time Fire
• Gao Silver
• Gouraiger & Shurikenger
• Abarekiller
• Dekabreak
• Magishine
• BoukenSilver
• Geki Violet & Chopper
• Go-On Wings
• Gokai Silver
• Beet & Stag Buster
• Kyoryu Gold
• Toq-6go
• Star Ninger
• Juoh The World
• Houh Soldier
• Lupat/Patran X
• Ryusoul Gold
• Kiramei Silver
• Two Kaiser

No Gosei Knight.Rockyou78, la Ráfaga Roja (talk) 23:09, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

RangerWiki interview with Keisuke Minami

With this latest interview with Keisuke Minami dubbing Houou Soldier as the Sixth Ranger, should this page, as well as the pages for Shou Rompo and Tsurugi Ohtori, be updated to reflect that? Tubeyou0417 (talk) 02:09, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Were Beet and Stag ever 6th Rangers in the first place?

I have been wondering about this for a bit but why are Beet and Stag Buster classified as 6th Rangers?

When 6th Rangers are grouped together in official toei material, Beet and Stag Buster are completely absent.

When core members are shown in official super sentai websites, beet and stag are excluded but so are the goraigers, abare black, geki violet and geki chopper (well known additional rangers).

The 2016 Hero Getter is the only potential evidence of them being sixth, yet the team poses for gokaiger onward for the 2016 getter were filmed YEARS after the ones filmed for goranger to goseiger for the Goseiger Gokaiger 199 movie back in 2011.

I'm also adding on how the shots filmed for the 2016 getter follow a completely different formula then the shots filmed for the 2011 movie because the team members of goranger - goseiger are in the extact same ranger placements as the gokaigers (pink - green - red - blue - yellow) because the gokaigers are using those teams' ranger keys.

When go-busters to nininger is shown, the teams positions don't follow that same position rule of (pink - green - red - blue - yellow), instead showing the ranger placements for the actual teams, despite it being blatantly shown that the gokaigers are using those teams' ranger keys (ie. some male ranger having skirts)

Because of the difference in formula, it makes sense that the crew filming those teams for the 2016 getter only wanted to only include the core members that appear from the GET GO and not include any unique rangers who count as core rangers (ie. goraigers), while the crew who filmed the goranger to goseiger poses back in 2011 wanted to include every ranger besides sixth and extra rangers

I hope to discover more evidence surrounding beet and stags official status in the future since I don't understand why we're jumping to conclusions and placing them as "6th", despite only having one thing to prove it. Once more evidence is shown cementing the beetle busters as sixth, then I'll understand and comply but for now, I'll continue to wonder why we're placing them in the 6th ranger category and how it's best if we remove them from the category until more evidence supporting their 6th ranger status is discovered.

coochieflipflops (talk) 03:26, 14 November 2021 (UTC)